rekall: (TRC - Kuro)
Rekall ([personal profile] rekall) wrote2006-09-02 12:45 pm

How Rude!

Weeks ago someone asked on a TRC comm why people hated the TRC anime (trust me Season 2 of it sucks). Anyway, I listed my reasons which included the fact I felt that the anime, instead of following the manga, was trying to "het things up" my promoting two fanon pairings, Fai(Fye)/Chii (Fai from TRC and Chii from 'Chobits') and Kuro/Tomoyo (Kurogane from TRC and Tomoyo from CCS), while at the same time completely ignore KuroFai which is canon. I also including the line where I said something along the line of "I guess they (BeeTrain, who makes the anime) missed the memo where Tomoyo is a lesbian".

Today I received this anonymous reply in my inbox (and it's dated today too so it's not like LJ screwed up this time):

I think you're the only one who got the memo that Tomoyo is a lesbian.

Umm...I last time I check being in love with another woman made you a lesbian especially considering that there's nothing in either TRC or CCS to indicate that Tomoyo is attracted to the opposite sex. Even in TRC she's all over Sakura when they meet, barely looking at Kuro twice and once was to deliver a message from his Tomoyo (the Tomoyo from Kuro's world, who's a priestess, contacted the Tomoyo in this other world through a dream to tell her they'd be arriving to look for Sakura's feathers).

The annoying part however isn't that this commenter disagreed with me however. I can deal with people thinking differently because it's fun to get into debates. I'm annoyed because:

1)This entry was from 2 weeks ago and I find it pretty cheap replying to old entries since only the person you're replying too will know about it, leaving the rest of the comm out of a potential good discussion. The comm in question moves fast since it's the main TRC comm so it's not like it was sitting at the top of the page all this time.

2)That it was anonymous. If you're going to disagree with someone grow some guts and make sure you're signed in. If you don't have an LJ account then sign some sort of name.

[identity profile] von-questenberg.livejournal.com 2006-09-02 05:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Blergh, I hate it when people try to make Tomoyo bisexual. What's wrong with having her be gay? Most people aren't bi, and there's no evidence she is bi, so why? She loves women- deal with it. Not only is her firt and only romantic love Sakura, a female, but her mother also is in love with a woman in CCS. In TRC, her sister is Kendappa, a lesbian, and her closest companion (besides Kurogane) is Souma, her sister's lover. In CCS and Piffle, she is always surrounded by female bodyguards. Not to mention that her other companion in TRC is Kurogane, who is also gay, and in Piffle her best friend is Nokoru, who is so gay it's not funny. She is -always always always- associated with homosexuality and/or women.

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/gmaniac_/ 2006-09-02 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally!

Some people are just too homophobic to admit some pairings are blatantly canon (I mean, look at the recent manga chapters)... And hey, we're talking about CLAMP here, who are, I'm sure, yaoi fangirls :P (how can people forget Touya and Yukito in CCS!?)

And yes the anime really, really sucks. Not to go on about how they ignored canon kuroxfai, but how they screwed up every character's (especially Fai's) facial expression really got to me too. They looked so un-clamp like I almost cried.

And at last, kuroxfai FTW! *shot*

[identity profile] elektra-alpha.livejournal.com 2006-09-03 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
... -_-'
Tomoyo is really a lesbian. Well TRC manga just released 4 issues here. So I don't know much about TRC (also DVD just vol 5 just released, damn very slow.) But from CCS; she spoke it herself that she love Sakura. And if people look CCS enough there are almost every type of pairings(even the unisex pairing ones) in this serie.

Now this makes me think about that stalker idiot. Ya know, checking mailbox and found something very old because of lame behaviour like that is suck and annoying.

ps. I started move some pics to other account since yesterday. Try here: http://elektra-beta.livejournal.com/

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-03 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I never realized that before about Tomoyo. I mean I knew her mother, Kendappa, Souma, etc were also lesbians but the connection never clicked in my head.

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-03 08:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh I know! That's something I've never understood; how can you be a CLAMP fan and also be homophobic? There's like a gay pairing in like every story (and when there is none it's usually because CLAMP has made a least one sexless character, which you can pretend is a guy). I mean Yuuko and Hokuto are canon yaoi fangirls since Hokuto was always trying to hook up Subaru and Seishirou and Yuuko currently is always trying to hook up Watanuki and Doumeki.

As for the anime...blah! I stopped watching it after the Fai/Chii filler ep because it was so bad.

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-03 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
I know, she's all over Sakura in CCS. Actually that was my reply to the person, lol. I said something like "And you missed the part where she's in love with Sakura". I got no reply yet but it'll probably be another two weeks before I hear something, lol.

Only 4 Volumes of TRC? That sucks. I became such a CLAMP fangirl after starting that and xxxHolic. It's only been a year since I started on CLAMP and I've already read most of their stories except for the one shots. TRC really starts getting interesting when the characters from X show up (specifically Seishirou, Subaru and Kamui) but that's still a long ways away from Volume 4.

Getting the comment also reminded me of the stalker because it was just so random, receiving it weeks later and the person was obviously angry over something so minor.

[identity profile] elektra-alpha.livejournal.com 2006-09-03 09:16 am (UTC)(link)
I know, she's all over Sakura in CCS. Actually that was my reply to the person, lol. I said something like "And you missed the part where she's in love with Sakura". I got no reply yet but it'll probably be another two weeks before I hear something, lol.


lol I guess that too. Dang -_-' Being against gay/lesbian but also Clamp's fan? Duh, someone is really a hypocrite.

Yep, it's just vol 4 here. Since Clamp is really strict on how thier books will be look when they're published in other language. My publisher got very bad migraine when the sample book not pass their check. (Happen to know some editors in one publisher ^^;;)

[identity profile] pysche924.livejournal.com 2006-09-03 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, I hate when people anonymously post rude one-liners. I guess some people are just entertained by pissing other ppl off for no reason. And like you said, how can you like Clamp and hate shonen-ai? I haven't really gotten into TRC but I used to love CCS and Touya/Yukito was my favorite pairing. *pets* Sorry you had to put up with that stupid FT.

Btw in other news Shakirah's gonna send me PoT next week, so I'll watch it and we can talk about it. ^^ Yay! I also finally finished Love Mode; it cut off in a horrible place though! I tried to download the next volume but everywhere I found it was on savefile and that's been down. *cries* Hopefully they'll get it fixed soon.

Love ya!

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-03 07:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Ack! I'll get Love Mode Vol 9 up for you later today (and the rest of the series). Vol 9 had some "issues" (ie, it was missing pages in the middle of it) for a long time and it's only recently I found the missing pages in raw. I need to scanlate them so it'll be sometime tonight before I get it up.

Yay for PoT! I think you'll like it with all the slash subtext.

[identity profile] pysche924.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yay for more Love Mode! ^^ Thanks wifey. And yay for PoT, too. I love slashy subtext, hehehe... She's sending me YnM too so we fangirl over that too once I watch it. :P

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
Yay! *loves YnM*

Half of Love Mode 9 is currently up and I'm about to start finishing off that volume. ^__^

[identity profile] elektra-alpha.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 02:55 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, I found this one: http://community.livejournal.com/fanficrants/3338591.html
XD

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
Okay wifey, I've completed uploading the rest of Love Mode and all the little bonus chapters that came seperate from the volumes. Enjoy! ^__^

[identity profile] pysche924.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 04:41 am (UTC)(link)
Yayayayay! Thanks! *kiss*

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
At least I'm not the only one having trouble with homophobic CLAMP fans, lol. I'm still pretty new to the CLAMP fandom (at least compared to a lot of their fans) but there seems to be a lot of homophobic fans around right now since I've seen some other stuff before I got that anonymous message.

[identity profile] elektra-alpha.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Yep, lol.
Ya know, even Shinshunga-den (Korea world in TRC) also has shoujo-ai twins mikoes.

Recommend: RayearthII anime. The anime-only-girl pinned Hikaru on floor and kissed her.

Duh, how can someone hates homosexual but read Clamp's works? There are gay in every work of Clamp's. (And I'm not 11 years fangirl for nothing XD.)

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
I heard Eagle dies in the MKR anime so I've avoided watching it. Lantis/Eagle is one of their more obvious canon pairings and I'm kinda bitter that the anime breaks them up. (I love the part Eagle admits to liking Lantis and Hikaru tells him she thinks Lantis feels the same way and then later she tells Lantis she wants him and Eagle to marry, hehe)

Lets see, I have read...TRC, xxxHolic, CCS, RG Veda, Chobits, Wish, MKR, Gouhou Drug, X, and Tokyo Babylon and they all have a homosexual pairing in them except for xxxHolic where it seems that CLAMP is going to pair up the two main male characters at some point (lots of subtext for those two, which includes other characters trying to set them up). So I'll never understand how someone can be homophobic and like CLAMP.

[identity profile] elektra-alpha.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
*laugh* then try the manga version :p
No Eagle die, but no Hikaru kissing ;_;
And here I found info about Shin Shunkaden: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Legend_of_Chun_Hyang

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-04 08:40 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry for taking so long in finishing it. I've been busy these past few days researching for a fic that I finally started writing tonight.

[identity profile] pysche924.livejournal.com 2006-09-05 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
*le gasp* Ooh a fic! I've horrendously neglected my ML one... :( What's yours about?

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-05 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
It's actually a Gravitation fic. O__O

Ever since I started reading Gravi for the first time I've had an annoying plot bunny to write a fic that was about the formation of Nittle Grasper since we're told practically nothing about them except they were hugely popular and that their break-up 3 years ago was sudden. I never wrote it though because I was too busy with YGO.

It's been years but that bunny is still bugging me so I finally started writing it.

[identity profile] pysche924.livejournal.com 2006-09-05 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Oh it sounds interesting already. What's the pairing gonna be, though? Tohma/Ryu? Surely not no slash at all... :P lol

[identity profile] rekallthegreat.livejournal.com 2006-09-08 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
Little bit of Tohma/Ryuichi (nothing too serious since I want to keep it as close to canon as possible) and some one-sided pairings.

Since Yuki is also going to be an important character in it and it'll end with the Shuichi meeting in the park, kinda some Yuki/Shuichi as well.